Guide XV-043

APPA client counselling (Marinoff)

Lou Marinoff1998New York
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1. Introduction

Version followed: Lou Marinoff's PEACE process (Problem, Emotion, Analysis, Contemplation, Equilibrium) as the publisher's description of Plato, Not Prozac! (Harper, 1999) states it and as Marinoff describes it in later interviews, together with the American Philosophical Practitioners Association (APPA) Code of Ethics (web version, last modified 2018) and its Certification Standards for Client Counselors. [source: PhilPapers record; Marinoff and Popescu 2013; APPA Code of Ethics; APPA Certification Standards]

APPA client counselling is a form of philosophical practice, not a psychotherapy. Marinoff, APPA's founding president, presents it as the return of philosophy to its classical role of helping people with everyday problems, and calls it "therapy for the sane". [source: Marinoff and Popescu 2013; loumarinoff.com book page] APPA was founded in New York in 1998 [uncertain: secondary, unverified]; its website carries the dates 1999–2026. In Marinoff's account, "psychological counsellors work mostly with affect, whereas philosophical counsellors work mostly with reason", and he says the distinction is not black and white. [source: IAI 2019 interview] Change, as the founder frames it, happens when a rational, functional person clarifies the problem, sets emotions in their place, weighs the options, adopts a philosophical outlook that lets them choose and live with the best option, and so regains equilibrium. The aim is for the client to become their own philosopher. [source: PhilPapers record; Marinoff, "the philosophy clinic" chapter]

Scope is the defining feature. Marinoff states the practice "is intended for clients who are rational, functional, and not mentally ill". He also says he does not see clients who are in any form of psychological counselling, psychotherapy or psychoanalysis. [source: Marinoff, "the philosophy clinic" chapter] This guide is therefore written for two roles. The first is a psychotherapist who is also trained and certified by APPA and keeps the two services separate. The second, more common, is a psychotherapist who borrows PEACE-style philosophical work inside licensed therapy, or who refers clients to, or receives clients from, a philosophical counsellor. Using PEACE inside psychotherapy is a derived application, not Marinoff's own model [synthesis]. Philosophical counselling must never be presented as treatment for a mental disorder.

Regulatory status. Marinoff writes that philosophical counselling is "completely unregulated by American states". He warns that American philosophers face legal risk if they call their work "therapeutic", because that term has largely been taken over by the licensed professions. [source: Marinoff, "the philosophy clinic" chapter] City College of New York ordered a halt to Marinoff's on-campus counselling (his own account dates the order to November 2000; a 2004 New York Times Magazine article reported it) [uncertain].

Reports of a public debate about a legal framework for the profession in Romania and Italy are [uncertain: secondary, unverified]. Before advertising philosophical counselling, a clinician should check their own jurisdiction's scope-of-practice law and their licensing board [synthesis].

2. Framework

PEACE is a sequence of five stages. Marinoff calls it "a general outline rather than a method" [source: "the philosophy clinic" chapter]. He says he wrote it at his publisher's request, that "at least 80% of my cases" fit it "in a general way", and that it often fails as pure self-help because clients get stuck at the contemplative stage and need a philosopher to help them move beyond it. [source: Marinoff and Popescu 2013; IAI 2019] Stage goals below follow the publisher's wording, paraphrased:

  1. Problem: identify the problem. Move on when the client and counsellor can state the problem plainly and agree on it [synthesis].
  2. Emotion: express the emotions the problem stirs, constructively. Move on when the client can name the feelings and is calm enough to reason [synthesis].
  3. Analysis: lay out and evaluate the options. Move on when the options are listed and weighed [synthesis].
  4. Contemplation: step back and consider a philosophy that helps the client choose and live with the best option. Move on when the client holds a view that makes sense of the whole situation and justifies a choice [synthesis].
  5. Equilibrium: restore personal equilibrium. The work ends when the client can act on the choice and feels settled [synthesis].

[source: PhilPapers record of Plato, Not Prozac!]

Session count and format. Marinoff describes the following [source: "the philosophy clinic" chapter]:

  • Individual sessions of a standard 50-minute hour, seated in chairs, in person or by video.
  • Preferably short-term work, "as little as one or just a few sessions". Some cases take months, and occasionally about a year.
  • An initial consultation that screens for fit, with referral of clients outside scope.

The APPA Code asks practitioners to avoid unnecessary sessions and to end once the client's goals are met to the client's satisfaction, or once further sessions would not help. [source: APPA Code of Ethics, Standard vi]

Scope areas. Marinoff lists five kinds of problem that suit the work [source: "the philosophy clinic" chapter]:

  • private morality or professional ethics;
  • meaning, value or purpose;
  • personal or professional fulfilment;
  • belief systems that are under-determined or inconsistent;
  • interpreting changing circumstances.

His examples include divorce, career change, questions of meaning and happiness, and a school principal's ethics dispute. He estimates that about 5% of people who approach him do not fit. [source: same]

Training and certification [source: APPA Certification Standards for Client Counselors]

  • Primary certification as an Associate requires a master's degree or ABD in philosophy (or a Licenciatura in Hispanic countries). Fellow requires a doctorate.
  • Required competencies include ethics (values analysis and clarification), logic, epistemology, metaphysics, the history of philosophy, practical knowledge of interpersonal psychology and psychopathology, and experience or training in counselling.
  • Associates practise under supervision by an APPA Fully Certified Fellow. Supervision usually works from an audio recording or a written case study, made with the client's prior consent.
  • Advanced certification requires at least ten cases over at least one year of practice, or a one-year supervised internship.
  • A 2004 psychiatrist's commentary describes APPA certification as following a three-day training programme. [source: AAPP Bulletin 12(1) 2004] Current programme length is [uncertain: not verified].

APPA certification is not a clinical licence [synthesis].

3. Guiding principles

  • Do no harm, for the client's benefit. Ask of every move whether it serves this client now. [source: APPA Code, Canons i–ii]
  • Refer what is not primarily philosophical. If the problem is mainly psychiatric, medical or psychological, philosophical work is not the main service. [source: APPA Code, Canon iii; Standard xi]
  • Reason-led, not affect-led. The working medium is argument, concepts and worldview. Feelings are acknowledged but not processed as the main work. [source: IAI 2019]
  • Client autonomy and participation. Do not dictate "correct" answers. You may suggest courses of action when asked, but make clear the client has the final say. [source: APPA Code, Standard ii]
  • Pluralism. Be sensitive to the client's worldview, including its cultural and gender dimensions. Draw on whichever tradition fits the client, Western or Eastern. [source: APPA Code, Standard iii; PhilPapers record]
  • Teach the method; avoid dependency. Leave the client able to reason without you. [source: APPA Code, Standard v; "the philosophy clinic" chapter]
  • Brevity. Stop when the goals are met. [source: APPA Code, Standard vi]
  • Honesty about credentials and claims. Never imply you are a mental-health counsellor or psychologist unless you are licensed as one. Make no unwarranted claims of effectiveness. [source: APPA Code, Standards viii, x]
  • Stay within your training. Do not use psychiatric or psychological interventions, or hypnosis, unless otherwise qualified. In reverse, a psychotherapist should not present themselves as a philosophical counsellor without APPA-level philosophical training [source: APPA Code, Standard ix; reverse application synthesis].
  • Ongoing informed consent and confidentiality, including its legal limits and fees, stated at the start. [source: APPA Code, Standards xii–xiv]
  • No exploitative or dual relationships. For a licensed psychologist who is also a philosophical counsellor, APA Ethics Code Standard 3.05 on multiple relationships applies. [source: APPA Code, Standard xviii; APA Ethics Code]
  • Philosophical virtues in the counsellor: open-mindedness, honesty, rationality, consistency, fairness and impartiality. [source: APPA Code, Standard xxi]
  • Respect for the other helping professions. Work with them, not against them. Marinoff's published criticisms of psychiatry and psychotherapy are his own views and should not be brought into sessions [source: APPA Code, Standard xxiv; IAI 2019; second clause synthesis].
  • Not a treatment for mental disorder. Keep philosophical work and clinical treatment distinct in contracting, records and billing. [synthesis]

4. Intervention inventory

The published sources set out only a few defined procedures: the initial consultation and referral, the five PEACE stages, Socratic dialogue, and the core moves listed in the Code's preamble (examining arguments, clarifying terms, exposing assumptions and contradictions, exploring relevant theories). The remaining therapist-side procedures below are added and marked [synthesis]. All example language is illustrative wording, not Marinoff's.

4.1 Initial consultation and scope screening

  • Purpose / when: At first contact, to decide whether the concern is mainly philosophical and the client is rational and functional, or whether it needs clinical care. [source: "the philosophy clinic" chapter; APPA Code, Canon iii]
  • Steps:
    1. Ask what brings the client and what they hope to leave with.
    2. Map the concern against Marinoff's five areas: ethics, meaning, fulfilment, belief consistency, changing circumstances.
    3. Screen for current mental-health treatment, current psychiatric symptoms (persistent low mood, anxiety, psychosis, substance use), and risk to self or others [synthesis: use your clinical risk assessment if you are licensed].
    4. If the client is in psychotherapy or psychiatric care, discuss it (see 4.17).
    5. Agree whether to proceed, refer, or both.
  • Example language (illustrative): "Before we start, I want to check this is the right kind of help. Some troubles are mainly about values, meaning or a decision; others are about mood or health and need a different service. Can I ask a few questions about how you've been sleeping, eating and feeling?"
  • Watch for: symptoms dressed up as philosophical questions (for example, "Is life worth living?" asked from inside depression). Persistent emotional disturbance that blocks reasoning is, in Marinoff's account, a reason the person is a poor candidate. If a loss of faith or a religious crisis is central, a licensed clinician may record the DSM-5-TR "Religious or Spiritual Problem" (ICD-10-CM Z65.8) [source: ICD-10-CM Z65.8 (Unbound Medicine); DSM-5-TR wording uncertain]. It is working when you and the client can state in one sentence why this service fits [synthesis].

4.2 Contracting and informed consent

  • Purpose / when: By the first meeting. [source: APPA Code, Standards x, xii–xiv, xvii]
  • Steps:
    1. Describe the service accurately, with no claims of effectiveness.
    2. State your credentials exactly: APPA level, and any clinical licence or its absence.
    3. State fees before starting.
    4. Explain confidentiality and its legal limits, including disclosure to prevent imminent, substantial harm.
    5. Say whether de-identified material may be used for training or research.
    6. If you are supervised, obtain consent for recording or case write-ups.
    7. Revisit consent as the work changes.
  • Example language (illustrative): "This is philosophical counselling: we'll reason through your question together. It isn't treatment for a mental-health condition, and I'm not acting as your therapist here. What you say stays private, except where the law requires otherwise or someone is at serious risk."
  • Watch for: a client who hears "counselling" as "therapy". A dual-licensed clinician should give the consent in writing and say which service is being delivered [synthesis]. It is working when the client can explain back what the service is and is not [synthesis].

4.3 PEACE stage 1: Identifying the problem

  • Purpose / when: The opening stage, to name what the problem actually is. [source: PhilPapers record]
  • Steps [synthesis within the published stage]:
    1. Invite the full story.
    2. Separate the presenting event ("my partner left") from the question it raises ("what do I owe myself now?").
    3. Write the problem in the client's words.
    4. Check it is one problem; split compound problems and choose where to start.
  • Example language (illustrative): "If you had to put the problem as a single question you want answered, what would it be?"
  • Watch for: a problem framed so that only one answer is possible, and a problem that is really someone else's. It is working when the client says something like "yes, that's it".

4.4 PEACE stage 2: Expressing emotions constructively

  • Purpose / when: After the problem is named, so that feelings are acknowledged and do not hijack the analysis. [source: PhilPapers record]
  • Steps [synthesis]:
    1. Ask the client to name the emotions the problem raises.
    2. Ask what each emotion seems to be saying about what matters to them.
    3. Separate what the client feels from what they believe follows from the feeling.
    4. Note any emotion strong enough to need a different kind of help.
  • Example language (illustrative): "You've said 'betrayed' and 'foolish'. Those tell us something about what you value. Let's keep them on the table while we look at the choices."
  • Watch for: emotion too intense or persistent for reasoning, panic, or disclosures of trauma or risk. That calls for a pause and clinical assessment or referral (see 4.17), not deeper processing within this service [source: "the philosophy clinic" chapter on poor candidates; response synthesis].

4.5 PEACE stage 3: Analysing the options

  • Purpose / when: Once the emotions are named, to set out and weigh the possible courses of action. [source: PhilPapers record]
  • Steps [synthesis]:
    1. List every option, including doing nothing.
    2. For each, ask what it would require, what it risks, what values it serves, and what it costs others.
    3. Test the client's reasoning for each (see 4.9–4.11).
    4. Drop options the client rejects on reflection.
  • Example language (illustrative): "Let's lay out every route, even the ones that sound unrealistic, and see which of your values each one protects."
  • Watch for: false dichotomies, and options ruled out by an unexamined "I can't". It is working when the client can compare the options on stated grounds.

4.6 PEACE stage 4: Contemplation

  • Purpose / when: After analysis, to step back and adopt a philosophical outlook that lets the client choose and live with the best option. This is the stage where Marinoff says clients get stuck without help. [source: PhilPapers record; IAI 2019]
  • Steps:
    1. Ask what view of life the client already holds, or would like to hold.
    2. Offer, without imposing, one or two philosophical perspectives relevant to the dilemma. Plato, Not Prozac! draws on thinkers including Socrates, Lao Tzu, Kierkegaard, Kant, Aristotle and the I Ching [source: PhilPapers record].
    3. Explore how each perspective would frame the problem and the options.
    4. Let the client choose, adapt or reject [source: APPA Code, Standard ii].
  • Example language (illustrative): "Some philosophers would ask what a person of good character would do here; others would ask which choice produces the least harm overall. Does either fit how you want to live?"
  • Watch for: the counsellor's favourite philosopher crowding out the client's own outlook, and abstract discussion that never returns to the decision. It is working when the client says something like "I can live with that choice because …" [synthesis].

4.7 PEACE stage 5: Restoring equilibrium

  • Purpose / when: The closing stage, so the client leaves settled and able to act. [source: PhilPapers record]
  • Steps [synthesis]:
    1. Ask the client to state the decision and the outlook that supports it.
    2. Anticipate what might unsettle it.
    3. Agree how the client will apply the reasoning on their own.
    4. Close the work, or contract for a further problem.
  • Example language (illustrative): "Say back the choice and the reason you're making it. What might shake it next month, and what will you remind yourself then?"
  • Watch for: relief that is only the relief of having decided, with no grounding; it may unravel. It is working when the client feels steady and can act.

4.8 Socratic dialogue

  • Purpose / when: Throughout, as Marinoff's main conversational method. [source: "the philosophy clinic" chapter] The detailed structure here is [synthesis]; for formal Socratic dialogue, see the Nelson–Heckmann guides in this family.
  • Steps [synthesis]:
    1. Take a claim the client makes.
    2. Ask what they mean by it.
    3. Ask for an example and a counter-example.
    4. Ask whether the claim survives the counter-example.
    5. Refine the claim together.
  • Example language (illustrative): "You said a good parent never lets their child fail. Can you think of a time when letting a child fail was the caring thing?"
  • Watch for: questioning that feels like cross-examination, and a client who agrees just to end it. It is working when the client starts generating counter-examples themselves.

4.9 Examining the client's arguments

  • Purpose / when: When a conclusion ("so I must quit", "so I'm a failure") rests on reasoning that can be laid out. [source: APPA Code, Preamble]
  • Steps [synthesis]:
    1. Write the reasoning as premises and a conclusion.
    2. Check that each premise is true.
    3. Check that the conclusion follows from the premises.
    4. Look for missing premises.
  • Example language (illustrative): "Let's write it out. You're saying: I made a serious mistake; people who make serious mistakes are failures; so I'm a failure. Do you accept the second line as written?"
  • Watch for: a client who experiences the analysis as being told they are wrong. It is working when the client revises a premise by their own judgement.

4.10 Clarifying key terms

  • Purpose / when: When a word is carrying the problem: "loyal", "success", "selfish", "meaningful". [source: APPA Code, Preamble]
  • Steps [synthesis]:
    1. Pick out the loaded term.
    2. Ask the client to define it.
    3. Gather the cases they would and would not call by that name.
    4. Note where their definition and their cases conflict.
    5. Agree on a working definition.
  • Example language (illustrative): "When you say you were 'selfish', what would unselfish have looked like that evening, concretely?"
  • Watch for: turning definitions into a game, or a definition borrowed from a critical parent or partner. It is working when the client uses the term more precisely, or drops it.

4.11 Exposing hidden assumptions and contradictions

  • Purpose / when: When the client is stuck between beliefs that cannot all be true. This also covers Marinoff's area of under-determined or inconsistent belief systems. [source: APPA Code, Preamble; "the philosophy clinic" chapter]
  • Steps [synthesis]:
    1. List the beliefs in play.
    2. Look for the assumption each one depends on.
    3. Show, gently, where two of them conflict.
    4. Ask which the client holds more deeply.
    5. Help them decide how to revise or rank them.
  • Example language (illustrative): "You believe people should follow their calling, and you believe it's irresponsible to leave a secure job. Right now those pull in opposite directions. Which matters more to you, and under what conditions?"
  • Watch for: shame at being "inconsistent". Normalise holding plural values. It is working when the tension becomes a choice the client can own.

4.12 Values analysis and clarification

  • Purpose / when: For problems of meaning, purpose or fulfilment. Values analysis and clarification is a required APPA competency. [source: APPA Certification Standards; "the philosophy clinic" chapter]
  • Steps [synthesis]:
    1. Ask what the client wants their life to stand for.
    2. Rank the values that come up.
    3. Compare the ranking with how they actually spend time and effort.
    4. Identify one concrete change that would close the gap.
  • Example language (illustrative): "If someone looked only at your last month, what would they say you value? Is that the list you'd write yourself?"
  • Watch for: values chosen to please the counsellor, and gaps driven by depression rather than by priorities (screen; see 4.1). It is working when the ranking feels like the client's own and changes a decision.

4.13 Working through an ethical dilemma

  • Purpose / when: For problems of private morality or professional ethics. Marinoff's example is a school principal who was losing sleep and appetite over a fairness dispute and resolved it in one session, wanting above all to "live with himself". [source: "the philosophy clinic" chapter; IAI 2019]
  • Steps [synthesis within PEACE]:
    1. State the dilemma and who is affected.
    2. Identify the duties, rights, consequences and character questions involved.
    3. Test each option against these.
    4. Let the client choose and frame a justification they could give to the people affected.
  • Example language (illustrative): "Imagine explaining your decision to each person involved. Which explanation could you give without wincing?"
  • Watch for: sleep and appetite disturbance that persists after the dilemma is resolved, which suggests a clinical problem [synthesis]. Also watch for dilemmas that carry legal or safeguarding duties, which must be handled as such [synthesis].

4.14 Bringing in a philosopher or tradition

  • Purpose / when: In the contemplation stage, when a tradition can offer a frame. Marinoff draws on Stoic, Taoist and Buddhist thought as well as Western philosophy. [source: IAI 2019; PhilPapers record]
  • Steps [synthesis]:
    1. Choose a tradition that fits the client's worldview, not yours.
    2. Summarise the idea briefly, attributed.
    3. Quote ancient texts only from public-domain translations.
    4. Ask how it applies.
    5. Offer a short reading if the client wants one.
  • Example language (illustrative): "There's an old Stoic distinction between what is up to us and what isn't. Would it help to sort your worries that way?"
  • Watch for: a lecture taking the place of dialogue, and imposing a secular or religious frame on a client of another tradition [source: APPA Code, Standard iii]. It is working when the client restates the idea in their own words and applies it.

4.15 Teaching the client to be their own philosopher

  • Purpose / when: Through the work and at its close, to prevent dependency. [source: APPA Code, Standard v; "the philosophy clinic" chapter]
  • Steps [synthesis]:
    1. Name the moves you are using as you use them (clarify terms, test arguments, list options).
    2. Have the client run a stage themselves.
    3. Review where they got stuck. Contemplation is the usual sticking point [source: IAI 2019].
  • Example language (illustrative): "This time you take us through the options and I'll just ask questions."
  • Watch for: a client who wants verdicts rather than skills. It is working when the client brings a problem already partly analysed.

4.16 Ending the work

  • Purpose / when: When the goals are met to the client's satisfaction, or further sessions would not help. [source: APPA Code, Standard vi]
  • Steps [synthesis]:
    1. Review the original problem statement.
    2. Ask whether it is resolved, reframed or still open.
    3. Summarise the reasoning tools the client now uses.
    4. Explain how to return or where else to go.
  • Example language (illustrative): "We started with whether to stay in the partnership, and you've made that choice. Is there anything philosophical left to work on, or is this a good place to stop?"
  • Watch for: continuing out of habit, and endings that leave untreated clinical symptoms (refer; see 4.17).

4.17 Referral out, and coordinating with clinical care

  • Purpose / when: When the problem is not primarily philosophical, falls outside your competence, or needs longer work. [source: APPA Code, Canon iii, Standard xi; "the philosophy clinic" chapter]
  • Steps:
    1. Explain the reason for referral plainly.
    2. Offer named options: a licensed psychotherapist, the GP or physician, or psychiatry.
    3. Share records only with consent [source: APPA Code, Standard xvi].
    4. In imminent danger, follow your legal duties and emergency routes (US 988; UK and Ireland Samaritans 116 123; local emergency services) [source: APPA Code, Standard xiv; resources synthesis].
    5. Marinoff does not see clients who are in psychotherapy. Other practitioners who do should agree roles with the treating clinician, with consent [synthesis].
  • Example language (illustrative): "What you're describing sounds like more than a philosophical knot. It sounds like depression may be part of it, and that deserves proper treatment. I'd like to help you get that, and we can return to the bigger questions alongside it if your clinician agrees."
  • Watch for: a client who hears referral as rejection or as being called "crazy". Frame it as matching help to the problem [synthesis].

4.18 Referral in: preparing and debriefing a therapy client who sees a philosophical counsellor

  • Purpose / when: A therapy client asks about philosophical counselling, or a counsellor refers someone to you. [synthesis]
  • Steps [synthesis]:
    1. Explore what the client hopes philosophy offers.
    2. Explain that philosophical counsellors are not clinically licensed in most places and that APPA counsellors are bound not to offer psychological interventions [source: APPA Code, Standards viii–ix; "the philosophy clinic" chapter].
    3. Note that some practitioners, Marinoff among them, will not take clients who are in therapy, so sequencing may matter.
    4. Suggest checking the practitioner's APPA level in its directory and asking for their written consent terms.
    5. Agree what, if anything, will be shared between you.
    6. Afterwards, debrief: what was useful, what conflicted with the therapy, and any distress raised.
  • Example language (illustrative): "It makes sense to want a philosopher's view on whether your work has meaning. Let's think about timing, and about how you'll bring back anything that stirs up the depression we've been treating."
  • Watch for: splitting ("the philosopher understands me, therapy doesn't"), conflicting advice, and a client using philosophy to avoid painful clinical work.

4.19 Using Stoic and other philosophical exercises within CBT (Robertson)

  • Purpose / when: When a licensed therapist wants a philosophical frame inside an evidence-based treatment, rather than delivering philosophical counselling. Donald Robertson's The Philosophy of Cognitive-Behavioural Therapy (CBT) (2nd ed., 2020) traces the line from Stoicism through rational psychotherapy and REBT to CBT and third-wave therapies. It sets out a "Stoic armamentarium": contemplation of the ideal sage; Stoic mindfulness of the here and now; self-analysis and disputation; autosuggestion, premeditation and retrospection; praemeditatio malorum (premeditation of adversity) and mental rehearsal; Stoic acceptance; and the View from Above. [source: Routledge book page] Cross-refer II 074 REBT and the Stoic practice guides in this family.
  • Steps [synthesis; Robertson's own procedures not verified in detail]:
    1. Fit the exercise to your case formulation.
    2. Present the Stoic idea as Robertson attributes it.
    3. Run it as a guided reflection or a homework entry.
    4. Review it with standard CBT measures of outcome.
  • Example language (illustrative): "Ancient Stoics used to imagine the day's possible setbacks in advance, so they could meet them calmly. Want to try a mild version for tomorrow's meeting?"
  • Watch for: adversity rehearsal feeding rumination or worry in anxious clients. Stop if distress escalates [synthesis].

4.20 Supervision and case review

  • Purpose / when: For APPA Associates, and for any clinician new to philosophical work. [source: APPA Certification Standards]
  • Steps:
    1. Obtain the client's prior consent to recording or a written case study.
    2. Send it to an APPA-approved Fully Certified Fellow.
    3. Log cases toward the ten-case, one-year requirement.
    4. Licensed clinicians should also keep their clinical supervision [synthesis].
  • Example language (illustrative): "I'm supervised. May I record this session, with your name removed, for my supervisor?"
  • Watch for: recordings that contain clinical material belonging in health records [synthesis].

4.21 Managing the dual role (therapist and philosophical counsellor)

  • Purpose / when: When one person holds both a clinical licence and APPA certification. [synthesis]
  • Steps [synthesis]:
    1. Decide, per client, which service is being delivered.
    2. Do not switch an existing therapy client into "philosophical counselling" to avoid clinical obligations.
    3. Keep separate consent, notes and fees.
    4. Check that your liability insurance covers the non-clinical service.
    5. Apply APA Ethics Code Standard 3.05 on multiple relationships where relevant [source: APA Ethics Code].
  • Example language (illustrative): "With you I'm working as your psychologist. Philosophical ideas may come into our work, but it remains therapy, with the same records and protections."
  • Watch for: blurred records, insurance billing of non-clinical work, and marketing that implies philosophical counselling treats disorders [source: APPA Code, Standard x].

5. Handling problems

  • Stuck at contemplation. Marinoff names this as the usual sticking point when clients work alone. [source: IAI 2019; Marinoff and Popescu 2013] Responses [synthesis]:
    • Go back to analysis and narrow the options to two.
    • Offer contrasting perspectives side by side.
    • Ask the client which they would want a respected friend to adopt.
    • Allow time between sessions for reflection.
  • Client wants the answer. The Code bars dictating "correct" answers but allows suggestions on practical problems, with the client deciding. [source: APPA Code, Standard ii] Response: give a reasoned suggestion labelled as such, then return the decision to the client [synthesis].
  • Overwhelm or distress that blocks reasoning. In Marinoff's account, people who are persistently too emotionally disturbed to be rational and functional are poor candidates. [source: "the philosophy clinic" chapter] Responses [synthesis]:
    • Pause the analysis.
    • Use grounding only if you are clinically trained.
    • Assess risk.
    • Refer (4.17).
    • Do not push through PEACE.
  • Suicidal thoughts or risk to others. Disclose only as law requires or to prevent imminent, substantial harm, to the appropriate party, and no more than necessary. [source: APPA Code, Standard xiv] Responses [synthesis]:
    • Use standard risk assessment if you are licensed.
    • Otherwise arrange urgent clinical contact.
    • Give crisis resources: 988 in the US; Samaritans 116 123 in the UK and Ireland.
    • Do not debate whether life is worth living with a person at risk.
  • Intellectualisation and resistance. A client who uses argument to keep feelings away [synthesis]:
    • Return briefly to the emotion stage.
    • Name the pattern without diagnosing it.
    • If it dominates and distress is high, consider whether psychotherapy is the better service.
  • Argument as rupture. The client feels beaten in debate, or the counsellor's worldview collides with theirs. Responses:
    • Acknowledge it directly.
    • Restate that the client has the final say [source: APPA Code, Standard ii].
    • Check cultural and gender assumptions [source: APPA Code, Standard iii].
    • Slow the Socratic pace [synthesis].
  • Non-adherence to reading or reflection between sessions. [synthesis]
    • Ask what got in the way.
    • Shrink the task to a single question to consider.
    • Do not treat homework as obligatory: the service is educational.
  • Dependency, or sessions continuing without purpose. End or re-contract. [source: APPA Code, Standards v–vi]
  • A client who is already in therapy. Marinoff refrains from seeing such clients. Others should coordinate roles with consent, or defer until therapy ends. [source: "the philosophy clinic" chapter; coordination synthesis]
  • A client who expects treatment of a disorder, or misleading marketing. Correct the expectation in writing. Make no effectiveness claims. Refer for assessment. [source: APPA Code, Standards viii, x]
  • Legal and title risk. Avoid "therapy" and "therapeutic" wording for non-clinical work, as Marinoff advises American practitioners. Check your jurisdiction's scope-of-practice law. Know the scope history: City College of New York ordered a halt to Marinoff's on-campus counselling (his own account dates the order to November 2000; a 2004 New York Times Magazine article reported it) [uncertain]. [source: "the philosophy clinic" chapter; jurisdiction check synthesis]
  • Founder's polemic. Marinoff's published criticism of psychiatry, psychotherapy and the "chemical imbalance" framing is his own view. He also accepts that some psychoses and clinical depressions need medication. [source: IAI 2019] Never advise a client to start, stop or change a medicine; send medication questions to the prescriber [synthesis].
  • A religious or faith crisis behind the question. Use the DSM-5-TR Cultural Formulation Interview supplementary module on spirituality, religion and moral traditions. Offer, if the client wishes, collaboration with their religious leader. Record Z65.8 where clinically appropriate. [source: ICD-10-CM Z65.8; CFI use synthesis]

Sources

Books cited

  • Marinoff, L. (1999). Plato, Not Prozac!: Applying Philosophy to Everyday Problems. Harper.
  • Robertson, D. (2020). The Philosophy of Cognitive-Behavioural Therapy (CBT): Stoic Philosophy as Rational and Cognitive Psychotherapy (2nd ed.). Routledge.
  • Duane, D. (2004, 21 March). "The Socratic Shrink." The New York Times Magazine [uncertain: not verified].